Secretary of the Cloud Computing Professional Committee of China Computer Industry Association Wen Fang:
Enterprise application cloud should just be "shock"
Article I reporter Liu Yang’s cloud computing applications in China’s infrastructure account for the majority, inevitably leading to a situation in which the government and the enterprises are involved in an imbalance.
At the “China Cloud Computing Industry Development Summit Forum†held on June 9th, there were only a handful of representatives from the application company among the more than 350 guests attending the meeting. On April 25, the China Computer Industry Association’s agreement was approved. Among the members of the Computing Professional Committee, there are less than two percent of representatives from the application companies. Before the CIOs of companies once expressed emotion, the current Chinese cloud computing has become a game for local governments and cloud computing companies. Why is the use of enterprises in China's cloud computing continues to heat up today but was left out? Is it due to development restrictions or disregard for demand? In this regard, Wen Fang, the secretary general of the Cloud Computing Professional Committee of the China Computer Industry Association, believes that this is a “shock†phase of cloud computing development and is a temporary issue.
Temporary absence of CEI: Why are there few application company representatives in China's cloud computing conferences?
Wen Fang: This is temporary. The current situation of cloud computing development in China is that there is a large proportion of infrastructure construction. In 2010, during the entire cloud computing and construction process in China, the proportion of infrastructure construction was as high as 70% or more. However, most of the current infrastructure construction is based on the government. Lord, this has caused a temporary absence of cloud computing in China. Most of the current cloud computing development is still at the stage where vendors introduce Solutions and describe how they are providing services. However, we have also seen the emergence of some enterprise application clouds, such as Inspur's industry cloud and UFIDA's SME application cloud. Of course, the characteristics of their cloud causes its users to be very dispersed, so many SMEs are not particularly prominent. Announced that they used some kind of cloud service from Inspur or UF.
CEI: In addition to government users and enterprise users, is there any other user model for cloud computing in China?
Wen Fang: There are still some cloud models for individual users. For example, a company in Wuhan is pushing a translation cloud. It is more about individual users. Like this cloud, everyone may not know who is using it, so it is impossible to see it at the conference. Of course, I think that in the process of cloud computing, many enterprise users will gradually join the big camp of cloud computing.
CEI: As far as the application of cloud computing is concerned, is there more government demand than enterprises?
Wen Fang: There are many ways to divide cloud computing. There are public, private, and hybrid clouds. Many people define the government-building cloud as a public cloud. In fact, the current government is building more private clouds on the government level. It is more to provide support services for e-government and certain local advantageous industries. It should be counted as a private cloud. Looking at the current situation, most private companies are building private clouds because they have problems such as security. They cannot be relieved. For SMEs that are not capable of building private clouds, they need to build public cloud platforms that provide support services for them.
"Two-sided" Private Cloud CEI: How do you evaluate the environment in which companies build private clouds?
Wen Fang: The starting point and starting point for companies to build private clouds are all different. For example, telecommunications and several major financial industries, their original data center platforms have been very good, and switching to building a private cloud will be relatively smooth, whether they are using their own private cloud platform or using this platform to its customers. Services will be better than rebuilding a cloud platform. However, they also have drawbacks. It is because of their good foundation. Therefore, it is relatively complicated to adjust the cloud in terms of its existing business processes. If other companies re-build a cloud computing center, there will be manufacturers to design a construction system for it, and it will be easier. So the private cloud has two sides in this respect.
Application is "soft rib"
CEI: Apple has iCloud. It covers many elements of cloud application services. However, China does not have a wide range of cloud products. Is it still relatively backward in the application of cloud computing in China?
Wen Fang: The biggest weakness of China's cloud computing development is the unbalanced development of the entire industry chain. Why does the United States have a wide range of application clouds? That's because they have core products in infrastructure, applications, and basic software. For us, we may have done well in some places, but more places are still non-nuclear. In terms of applications, our development capabilities are insufficient. We need to understand more about the needs of both business users and individual users. After understanding user needs, we deploy them again, which is far better than our pre-deployment infrastructure.
CEI: The two-faced enterprise application cloud like telecommunications and banking, if they are successful, what is the significance of reference for other industries?
Wen Fang: There is a great deal of reference. Whether it is the Internet of Things or cloud computing, its application requires several typical success stories. Whether or not it is cross-industry, their purpose is only two kinds: one is to serve corporate users; the other is to serve consumer users. If telecommunications is very good for consumer users in cloud computing applications, it has great implications for other industries such as banks and energy. At present, it is precisely in our country that we need to have some examples that have exemplary significance. Our establishment of the Cloud Computing Industry Alliance is precisely such an original intention, so that a successful typical enterprise affects an industry.
Industry applications take the "public" road CEI: Some experts have suggested that the application of cloud computing in the industry should eventually go to the construction industry public cloud. How do you think of this?
Wen Fang: If an industry wants to develop, relying on an industry public cloud is actually very helpful for the sound development of the industry. If an industry is aware of this, it is a pioneer and it may try a public cloud that is not even complete. For example, a local area or a certain area of ​​a certain data or a certain content sharing, at least this trend of things should exist. The current industry public service platforms in some regions can also be regarded as a prototype of public cloud in the industry.
CEI: If you want to build a public cloud for the industry, what carrier should it be?
Wen Fang: At present, it should rely more on the carrier of local government, but in the long run, the carrier can be a local government, a trade association, or a third-party company. However, since the public cloud in the construction industry will involve many interests of the industry and enterprises, this kind of cloud promotion should also be based on the public cloud of the local industry led by the local government. This is also a point-to-face process.
We have come into contact with many industries, such as the fertilizer industry, which build a locally-shared cloud computing platform in places where some industries are clustered. However, they not only provide services for local industries but also provide industry data for many companies outside the region. Of course, its service can be provided, but it is not clear how many out-of-area companies can think of it. A cloud computing platform in the northeast can use it in South China. It is the problem of the cloud platform itself. It is more of a problem of concepts and ideas.
Enterprise application cloud should just be "shock"
Article I reporter Liu Yang’s cloud computing applications in China’s infrastructure account for the majority, inevitably leading to a situation in which the government and the enterprises are involved in an imbalance.
At the “China Cloud Computing Industry Development Summit Forum†held on June 9th, there were only a handful of representatives from the application company among the more than 350 guests attending the meeting. On April 25, the China Computer Industry Association’s agreement was approved. Among the members of the Computing Professional Committee, there are less than two percent of representatives from the application companies. Before the CIOs of companies once expressed emotion, the current Chinese cloud computing has become a game for local governments and cloud computing companies. Why is the use of enterprises in China's cloud computing continues to heat up today but was left out? Is it due to development restrictions or disregard for demand? In this regard, Wen Fang, the secretary general of the Cloud Computing Professional Committee of the China Computer Industry Association, believes that this is a “shock†phase of cloud computing development and is a temporary issue.
Temporary absence of CEI: Why are there few application company representatives in China's cloud computing conferences?
Wen Fang: This is temporary. The current situation of cloud computing development in China is that there is a large proportion of infrastructure construction. In 2010, during the entire cloud computing and construction process in China, the proportion of infrastructure construction was as high as 70% or more. However, most of the current infrastructure construction is based on the government. Lord, this has caused a temporary absence of cloud computing in China. Most of the current cloud computing development is still at the stage where vendors introduce Solutions and describe how they are providing services. However, we have also seen the emergence of some enterprise application clouds, such as Inspur's industry cloud and UFIDA's SME application cloud. Of course, the characteristics of their cloud causes its users to be very dispersed, so many SMEs are not particularly prominent. Announced that they used some kind of cloud service from Inspur or UF.
CEI: In addition to government users and enterprise users, is there any other user model for cloud computing in China?
Wen Fang: There are still some cloud models for individual users. For example, a company in Wuhan is pushing a translation cloud. It is more about individual users. Like this cloud, everyone may not know who is using it, so it is impossible to see it at the conference. Of course, I think that in the process of cloud computing, many enterprise users will gradually join the big camp of cloud computing.
CEI: As far as the application of cloud computing is concerned, is there more government demand than enterprises?
Wen Fang: There are many ways to divide cloud computing. There are public, private, and hybrid clouds. Many people define the government-building cloud as a public cloud. In fact, the current government is building more private clouds on the government level. It is more to provide support services for e-government and certain local advantageous industries. It should be counted as a private cloud. Looking at the current situation, most private companies are building private clouds because they have problems such as security. They cannot be relieved. For SMEs that are not capable of building private clouds, they need to build public cloud platforms that provide support services for them.
"Two-sided" Private Cloud CEI: How do you evaluate the environment in which companies build private clouds?
Wen Fang: The starting point and starting point for companies to build private clouds are all different. For example, telecommunications and several major financial industries, their original data center platforms have been very good, and switching to building a private cloud will be relatively smooth, whether they are using their own private cloud platform or using this platform to its customers. Services will be better than rebuilding a cloud platform. However, they also have drawbacks. It is because of their good foundation. Therefore, it is relatively complicated to adjust the cloud in terms of its existing business processes. If other companies re-build a cloud computing center, there will be manufacturers to design a construction system for it, and it will be easier. So the private cloud has two sides in this respect.
Application is "soft rib"
CEI: Apple has iCloud. It covers many elements of cloud application services. However, China does not have a wide range of cloud products. Is it still relatively backward in the application of cloud computing in China?
Wen Fang: The biggest weakness of China's cloud computing development is the unbalanced development of the entire industry chain. Why does the United States have a wide range of application clouds? That's because they have core products in infrastructure, applications, and basic software. For us, we may have done well in some places, but more places are still non-nuclear. In terms of applications, our development capabilities are insufficient. We need to understand more about the needs of both business users and individual users. After understanding user needs, we deploy them again, which is far better than our pre-deployment infrastructure.
CEI: The two-faced enterprise application cloud like telecommunications and banking, if they are successful, what is the significance of reference for other industries?
Wen Fang: There is a great deal of reference. Whether it is the Internet of Things or cloud computing, its application requires several typical success stories. Whether or not it is cross-industry, their purpose is only two kinds: one is to serve corporate users; the other is to serve consumer users. If telecommunications is very good for consumer users in cloud computing applications, it has great implications for other industries such as banks and energy. At present, it is precisely in our country that we need to have some examples that have exemplary significance. Our establishment of the Cloud Computing Industry Alliance is precisely such an original intention, so that a successful typical enterprise affects an industry.
Industry applications take the "public" road CEI: Some experts have suggested that the application of cloud computing in the industry should eventually go to the construction industry public cloud. How do you think of this?
Wen Fang: If an industry wants to develop, relying on an industry public cloud is actually very helpful for the sound development of the industry. If an industry is aware of this, it is a pioneer and it may try a public cloud that is not even complete. For example, a local area or a certain area of ​​a certain data or a certain content sharing, at least this trend of things should exist. The current industry public service platforms in some regions can also be regarded as a prototype of public cloud in the industry.
CEI: If you want to build a public cloud for the industry, what carrier should it be?
Wen Fang: At present, it should rely more on the carrier of local government, but in the long run, the carrier can be a local government, a trade association, or a third-party company. However, since the public cloud in the construction industry will involve many interests of the industry and enterprises, this kind of cloud promotion should also be based on the public cloud of the local industry led by the local government. This is also a point-to-face process.
We have come into contact with many industries, such as the fertilizer industry, which build a locally-shared cloud computing platform in places where some industries are clustered. However, they not only provide services for local industries but also provide industry data for many companies outside the region. Of course, its service can be provided, but it is not clear how many out-of-area companies can think of it. A cloud computing platform in the northeast can use it in South China. It is the problem of the cloud platform itself. It is more of a problem of concepts and ideas.
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